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		<title>By: Fentex</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; And you blithely say “Afghanistan could be won…”

I sarcastically declared that powerful weapons are useful if you use them blindly and arrogantly with disregard for all humanity and rational ambition.

It is, incidentally,  possible to exterminate opponents, it has happened quite a few times, and the threat of it has conquered all of Afghanistan in the past.

I think it a positive thing that it isn&#039;t likely the U.S military will start decimating villages and otherwise deploying the tactics a great Khan would have in times past.

I think I&#039;ve made it quite clear that my personal opinion is that the U.S has no chance of winning any kind of victory (even the poorly defined objectives it&#039;s forces are labouring under today) and ought go home ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; And you blithely say “Afghanistan could be won…”</p>
<p>I sarcastically declared that powerful weapons are useful if you use them blindly and arrogantly with disregard for all humanity and rational ambition.</p>
<p>It is, incidentally,  possible to exterminate opponents, it has happened quite a few times, and the threat of it has conquered all of Afghanistan in the past.</p>
<p>I think it a positive thing that it isn&#8217;t likely the U.S military will start decimating villages and otherwise deploying the tactics a great Khan would have in times past.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve made it quite clear that my personal opinion is that the U.S has no chance of winning any kind of victory (even the poorly defined objectives it&#8217;s forces are labouring under today) and ought go home ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Fentex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fentex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; And you blithely say “Afghanistan could be won…”

I sarcastically declared that powerful weapons are useful if you use them blindly and arrogantly with disregard for all humanity and rational ambition.

It is, incidentally,  possible to exterminate opponents, it has happened quite a few times, and the threat of it has conquered all of Afghanistan in the past.

I think it a positive thing that it isn&#039;t likely the U.S military will start decimating villages and otherwise deploying the tactics a great Khan would have in times past.

I think I&#039;ve made it quite clear that my personal opinion is that the U.S has no chance of winning any kind of victory (even the poorly defined objectives it&#039;s forces are labouring under today) and ought go home ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; And you blithely say “Afghanistan could be won…”</p>
<p>I sarcastically declared that powerful weapons are useful if you use them blindly and arrogantly with disregard for all humanity and rational ambition.</p>
<p>It is, incidentally,  possible to exterminate opponents, it has happened quite a few times, and the threat of it has conquered all of Afghanistan in the past.</p>
<p>I think it a positive thing that it isn&#8217;t likely the U.S military will start decimating villages and otherwise deploying the tactics a great Khan would have in times past.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve made it quite clear that my personal opinion is that the U.S has no chance of winning any kind of victory (even the poorly defined objectives it&#8217;s forces are labouring under today) and ought go home ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Fentex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fentex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; And you blithely say “Afghanistan could be won…”

I sarcastically declared that powerful weapons are useful if you use them blindly and arrogantly with disregard for all humanity and rational ambition.

It is, incidentally,  possible to exterminate opponents, it has happened quite a few times, and the threat of it has conquered all of Afghanistan in the past.

I think it a positive thing that it isn&#039;t likely the U.S military will start decimating villages and otherwise deploying the tactics a great Khan would have in times past.

I think I&#039;ve made it quite clear that my personal opinion is that the U.S has no chance of winning any kind of victory (even the poorly defined objectives it&#039;s forces are labouring under today) and ought go home ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; And you blithely say “Afghanistan could be won…”</p>
<p>I sarcastically declared that powerful weapons are useful if you use them blindly and arrogantly with disregard for all humanity and rational ambition.</p>
<p>It is, incidentally,  possible to exterminate opponents, it has happened quite a few times, and the threat of it has conquered all of Afghanistan in the past.</p>
<p>I think it a positive thing that it isn&#8217;t likely the U.S military will start decimating villages and otherwise deploying the tactics a great Khan would have in times past.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve made it quite clear that my personal opinion is that the U.S has no chance of winning any kind of victory (even the poorly defined objectives it&#8217;s forces are labouring under today) and ought go home ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: JTMcPhee</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2009/11/15/war-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-52655</link>
		<dc:creator>JTMcPhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fentex, please don&#039;t fall for or propagate the Engineer-Generals&#039; notion that &quot;killing all the enemy&quot; is ever possible.

Us mopes who feed our wealth and our bodies and souls into the Maw of the Machine may get off on the notion of terminal and complete brutality on the people who happen to be labeled today with the umbrella psychic construct we all carry from birth, &quot;the Enemy,&quot; but that&#039;s so far from real-world possible...

And you blithely say &quot;Afghanistan could be won...&quot; May I ask for your definition of &quot;Winning?&quot; That seems to be one of the many huge holes in what passes for &quot;policy-making&quot; now. &quot;We&quot; just &quot;Know&quot; that &quot;With Enough Troops, We Can Surely Win If We Just Expend Enough Of The Right Resources.&quot; Don&#039;t see no fucking endpoint, let alone point of aim, in any of this.

The set of &quot;deciders&quot; in the nationalist/political/military complex that considers genocide needs not only to be &quot;prepared,&quot; that is, to &lt;a&gt;have the Will to &quot;kill all your enemies.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; Those considerers have to also have the actual physical capability to wipe out, without committing suicide on the way, or in their hubris doing what obviously happens in every Empire-Death, making a shitload of new &quot;enemies&quot; while so weakening the Empire that the wheel just has to fucking turn again. Of course, our species&#039; new skills, like custom assembly of genes and proteins, and all the wonderful potential of nanotechnology that also may make a few rich for a short while until the Trickster inspires someone to think, &quot;I can get away with this, and Rule The World!!! Bwaaa-haaa-haaa-haa-ha!!!&quot; (I wonder how the Phoenicians did as well as they did for as long as they apparently did...)

Our Gen. Curtis Lemay and various members of &quot;The World&#039;s Greatest Deliberative Body&quot; were all about &#039;nuking &#039;em back to the stone age&#039; not so long ago, and just look at the curves and charts presented so aptly by our dinner host showing how well various doctrines and strategies and tactics and procurements and programs have served &quot;us.&quot; And in the public mind, the cost of the Great War On Terror is being paid for with &quot;government money&quot; and happening Somewhere Else to Sombody Else&#039;s Loved Ones and Communities. So mentally, for most of us, it&#039;s like the cost of gasoline or sugar. Not even in the stupid realm of Econ 101 supply and demand any more. The big rolling price signs are just part of the visual clutter. The vast mostness of us &quot;voters&quot;  just zip the plastic through the slot, and whatever rolls around in the little windows on the slot machine, that&#039;s how many gallons of liquid death we &quot;win&quot; with this spin.

The Third Reich took a shot at it, without the intended effect. And of course look where $2, or is it $3, or maybe $4 trillion is going off to these days...

On a personal pet peeve note, I love the post hoc treatment accorded Leni Riefenstahl, whose Trickster-inspiration and Dedication To Her Art kind of helped boost us all along toward Where We Are Going To Be Tomorrow-Land. Say the Aesthetes, &quot;Art transcends society, Art is Unjudgeable and Unaccountable. Art Just Is, And Is To Be Worshipped And The Artist To Be Lionized.&quot; Y&#039;know, I bet that around the old sacred purifying fires in the God-Lodges of &quot;pre-literate Man,&quot; the story tellers that produced stuff as deadly to the tribe as Lady Leni, and so many others at the interface of Art and Poetry and Prose and Power Accumulation, probably at best learned what it meant to be &quot;ostracized,&quot; if not straightaway garrotted and their bodies burned Beyond the Pale.

&quot;Kill all the Pashtun people&quot;? Let&#039;s see, what happens next after that? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/91485&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There&#039;s always the players for the next act, weapons at high port, standing in their uniforms in the wings, waiting for their cues.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fentex, please don&#8217;t fall for or propagate the Engineer-Generals&#8217; notion that &#8220;killing all the enemy&#8221; is ever possible.</p>
<p>Us mopes who feed our wealth and our bodies and souls into the Maw of the Machine may get off on the notion of terminal and complete brutality on the people who happen to be labeled today with the umbrella psychic construct we all carry from birth, &#8220;the Enemy,&#8221; but that&#8217;s so far from real-world possible&#8230;</p>
<p>And you blithely say &#8220;Afghanistan could be won&#8230;&#8221; May I ask for your definition of &#8220;Winning?&#8221; That seems to be one of the many huge holes in what passes for &#8220;policy-making&#8221; now. &#8220;We&#8221; just &#8220;Know&#8221; that &#8220;With Enough Troops, We Can Surely Win If We Just Expend Enough Of The Right Resources.&#8221; Don&#8217;t see no fucking endpoint, let alone point of aim, in any of this.</p>
<p>The set of &#8220;deciders&#8221; in the nationalist/political/military complex that considers genocide needs not only to be &#8220;prepared,&#8221; that is, to <a>have the Will to &#8220;kill all your enemies.&#8221;</a> Those considerers have to also have the actual physical capability to wipe out, without committing suicide on the way, or in their hubris doing what obviously happens in every Empire-Death, making a shitload of new &#8220;enemies&#8221; while so weakening the Empire that the wheel just has to fucking turn again. Of course, our species&#8217; new skills, like custom assembly of genes and proteins, and all the wonderful potential of nanotechnology that also may make a few rich for a short while until the Trickster inspires someone to think, &#8220;I can get away with this, and Rule The World!!! Bwaaa-haaa-haaa-haa-ha!!!&#8221; (I wonder how the Phoenicians did as well as they did for as long as they apparently did&#8230;)</p>
<p>Our Gen. Curtis Lemay and various members of &#8220;The World&#8217;s Greatest Deliberative Body&#8221; were all about &#8216;nuking &#8216;em back to the stone age&#8217; not so long ago, and just look at the curves and charts presented so aptly by our dinner host showing how well various doctrines and strategies and tactics and procurements and programs have served &#8220;us.&#8221; And in the public mind, the cost of the Great War On Terror is being paid for with &#8220;government money&#8221; and happening Somewhere Else to Sombody Else&#8217;s Loved Ones and Communities. So mentally, for most of us, it&#8217;s like the cost of gasoline or sugar. Not even in the stupid realm of Econ 101 supply and demand any more. The big rolling price signs are just part of the visual clutter. The vast mostness of us &#8220;voters&#8221;  just zip the plastic through the slot, and whatever rolls around in the little windows on the slot machine, that&#8217;s how many gallons of liquid death we &#8220;win&#8221; with this spin.</p>
<p>The Third Reich took a shot at it, without the intended effect. And of course look where $2, or is it $3, or maybe $4 trillion is going off to these days&#8230;</p>
<p>On a personal pet peeve note, I love the post hoc treatment accorded Leni Riefenstahl, whose Trickster-inspiration and Dedication To Her Art kind of helped boost us all along toward Where We Are Going To Be Tomorrow-Land. Say the Aesthetes, &#8220;Art transcends society, Art is Unjudgeable and Unaccountable. Art Just Is, And Is To Be Worshipped And The Artist To Be Lionized.&#8221; Y&#8217;know, I bet that around the old sacred purifying fires in the God-Lodges of &#8220;pre-literate Man,&#8221; the story tellers that produced stuff as deadly to the tribe as Lady Leni, and so many others at the interface of Art and Poetry and Prose and Power Accumulation, probably at best learned what it meant to be &#8220;ostracized,&#8221; if not straightaway garrotted and their bodies burned Beyond the Pale.</p>
<p>&#8220;Kill all the Pashtun people&#8221;? Let&#8217;s see, what happens next after that? <a href="http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/91485" rel="nofollow">There&#8217;s always the players for the next act, weapons at high port, standing in their uniforms in the wings, waiting for their cues.</a></p>
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		<title>By: JTMcPhee</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2009/11/15/war-taxes/comment-page-2/#comment-52656</link>
		<dc:creator>JTMcPhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fentex, please don&#039;t fall for or propagate the Engineer-Generals&#039; notion that &quot;killing all the enemy&quot; is ever possible.

Us mopes who feed our wealth and our bodies and souls into the Maw of the Machine may get off on the notion of terminal and complete brutality on the people who happen to be labeled today with the umbrella psychic construct we all carry from birth, &quot;the Enemy,&quot; but that&#039;s so far from real-world possible...

And you blithely say &quot;Afghanistan could be won...&quot; May I ask for your definition of &quot;Winning?&quot; That seems to be one of the many huge holes in what passes for &quot;policy-making&quot; now. &quot;We&quot; just &quot;Know&quot; that &quot;With Enough Troops, We Can Surely Win If We Just Expend Enough Of The Right Resources.&quot; Don&#039;t see no fucking endpoint, let alone point of aim, in any of this.

The set of &quot;deciders&quot; in the nationalist/political/military complex that considers genocide needs not only to be &quot;prepared,&quot; that is, to &lt;a&gt;have the Will to &quot;kill all your enemies.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; Those considerers have to also have the actual physical capability to wipe out, without committing suicide on the way, or in their hubris doing what obviously happens in every Empire-Death, making a shitload of new &quot;enemies&quot; while so weakening the Empire that the wheel just has to fucking turn again. Of course, our species&#039; new skills, like custom assembly of genes and proteins, and all the wonderful potential of nanotechnology that also may make a few rich for a short while until the Trickster inspires someone to think, &quot;I can get away with this, and Rule The World!!! Bwaaa-haaa-haaa-haa-ha!!!&quot; (I wonder how the Phoenicians did as well as they did for as long as they apparently did...)

Our Gen. Curtis Lemay and various members of &quot;The World&#039;s Greatest Deliberative Body&quot; were all about &#039;nuking &#039;em back to the stone age&#039; not so long ago, and just look at the curves and charts presented so aptly by our dinner host showing how well various doctrines and strategies and tactics and procurements and programs have served &quot;us.&quot; And in the public mind, the cost of the Great War On Terror is being paid for with &quot;government money&quot; and happening Somewhere Else to Sombody Else&#039;s Loved Ones and Communities. So mentally, for most of us, it&#039;s like the cost of gasoline or sugar. Not even in the stupid realm of Econ 101 supply and demand any more. The big rolling price signs are just part of the visual clutter. The vast mostness of us &quot;voters&quot;  just zip the plastic through the slot, and whatever rolls around in the little windows on the slot machine, that&#039;s how many gallons of liquid death we &quot;win&quot; with this spin.

The Third Reich took a shot at it, without the intended effect. And of course look where $2, or is it $3, or maybe $4 trillion is going off to these days...

On a personal pet peeve note, I love the post hoc treatment accorded Leni Riefenstahl, whose Trickster-inspiration and Dedication To Her Art kind of helped boost us all along toward Where We Are Going To Be Tomorrow-Land. Say the Aesthetes, &quot;Art transcends society, Art is Unjudgeable and Unaccountable. Art Just Is, And Is To Be Worshipped And The Artist To Be Lionized.&quot; Y&#039;know, I bet that around the old sacred purifying fires in the God-Lodges of &quot;pre-literate Man,&quot; the story tellers that produced stuff as deadly to the tribe as Lady Leni, and so many others at the interface of Art and Poetry and Prose and Power Accumulation, probably at best learned what it meant to be &quot;ostracized,&quot; if not straightaway garrotted and their bodies burned Beyond the Pale.

&quot;Kill all the Pashtun people&quot;? Let&#039;s see, what happens next after that? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/91485&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There&#039;s always the players for the next act, weapons at high port, standing in their uniforms in the wings, waiting for their cues.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fentex, please don&#8217;t fall for or propagate the Engineer-Generals&#8217; notion that &#8220;killing all the enemy&#8221; is ever possible.</p>
<p>Us mopes who feed our wealth and our bodies and souls into the Maw of the Machine may get off on the notion of terminal and complete brutality on the people who happen to be labeled today with the umbrella psychic construct we all carry from birth, &#8220;the Enemy,&#8221; but that&#8217;s so far from real-world possible&#8230;</p>
<p>And you blithely say &#8220;Afghanistan could be won&#8230;&#8221; May I ask for your definition of &#8220;Winning?&#8221; That seems to be one of the many huge holes in what passes for &#8220;policy-making&#8221; now. &#8220;We&#8221; just &#8220;Know&#8221; that &#8220;With Enough Troops, We Can Surely Win If We Just Expend Enough Of The Right Resources.&#8221; Don&#8217;t see no fucking endpoint, let alone point of aim, in any of this.</p>
<p>The set of &#8220;deciders&#8221; in the nationalist/political/military complex that considers genocide needs not only to be &#8220;prepared,&#8221; that is, to <a>have the Will to &#8220;kill all your enemies.&#8221;</a> Those considerers have to also have the actual physical capability to wipe out, without committing suicide on the way, or in their hubris doing what obviously happens in every Empire-Death, making a shitload of new &#8220;enemies&#8221; while so weakening the Empire that the wheel just has to fucking turn again. Of course, our species&#8217; new skills, like custom assembly of genes and proteins, and all the wonderful potential of nanotechnology that also may make a few rich for a short while until the Trickster inspires someone to think, &#8220;I can get away with this, and Rule The World!!! Bwaaa-haaa-haaa-haa-ha!!!&#8221; (I wonder how the Phoenicians did as well as they did for as long as they apparently did&#8230;)</p>
<p>Our Gen. Curtis Lemay and various members of &#8220;The World&#8217;s Greatest Deliberative Body&#8221; were all about &#8216;nuking &#8216;em back to the stone age&#8217; not so long ago, and just look at the curves and charts presented so aptly by our dinner host showing how well various doctrines and strategies and tactics and procurements and programs have served &#8220;us.&#8221; And in the public mind, the cost of the Great War On Terror is being paid for with &#8220;government money&#8221; and happening Somewhere Else to Sombody Else&#8217;s Loved Ones and Communities. So mentally, for most of us, it&#8217;s like the cost of gasoline or sugar. Not even in the stupid realm of Econ 101 supply and demand any more. The big rolling price signs are just part of the visual clutter. The vast mostness of us &#8220;voters&#8221;  just zip the plastic through the slot, and whatever rolls around in the little windows on the slot machine, that&#8217;s how many gallons of liquid death we &#8220;win&#8221; with this spin.</p>
<p>The Third Reich took a shot at it, without the intended effect. And of course look where $2, or is it $3, or maybe $4 trillion is going off to these days&#8230;</p>
<p>On a personal pet peeve note, I love the post hoc treatment accorded Leni Riefenstahl, whose Trickster-inspiration and Dedication To Her Art kind of helped boost us all along toward Where We Are Going To Be Tomorrow-Land. Say the Aesthetes, &#8220;Art transcends society, Art is Unjudgeable and Unaccountable. Art Just Is, And Is To Be Worshipped And The Artist To Be Lionized.&#8221; Y&#8217;know, I bet that around the old sacred purifying fires in the God-Lodges of &#8220;pre-literate Man,&#8221; the story tellers that produced stuff as deadly to the tribe as Lady Leni, and so many others at the interface of Art and Poetry and Prose and Power Accumulation, probably at best learned what it meant to be &#8220;ostracized,&#8221; if not straightaway garrotted and their bodies burned Beyond the Pale.</p>
<p>&#8220;Kill all the Pashtun people&#8221;? Let&#8217;s see, what happens next after that? <a href="http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/91485" rel="nofollow">There&#8217;s always the players for the next act, weapons at high port, standing in their uniforms in the wings, waiting for their cues.</a></p>
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		<title>By: JTMcPhee</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTMcPhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fentex, please don&#039;t fall for or propagate the Engineer-Generals&#039; notion that &quot;killing all the enemy&quot; is ever possible.

Us mopes who feed our wealth and our bodies and souls into the Maw of the Machine may get off on the notion of terminal and complete brutality on the people who happen to be labeled today with the umbrella psychic construct we all carry from birth, &quot;the Enemy,&quot; but that&#039;s so far from real-world possible...

And you blithely say &quot;Afghanistan could be won...&quot; May I ask for your definition of &quot;Winning?&quot; That seems to be one of the many huge holes in what passes for &quot;policy-making&quot; now. &quot;We&quot; just &quot;Know&quot; that &quot;With Enough Troops, We Can Surely Win If We Just Expend Enough Of The Right Resources.&quot; Don&#039;t see no fucking endpoint, let alone point of aim, in any of this.

The set of &quot;deciders&quot; in the nationalist/political/military complex that considers genocide needs not only to be &quot;prepared,&quot; that is, to &lt;a&gt;have the Will to &quot;kill all your enemies.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; Those considerers have to also have the actual physical capability to wipe out, without committing suicide on the way, or in their hubris doing what obviously happens in every Empire-Death, making a shitload of new &quot;enemies&quot; while so weakening the Empire that the wheel just has to fucking turn again. Of course, our species&#039; new skills, like custom assembly of genes and proteins, and all the wonderful potential of nanotechnology that also may make a few rich for a short while until the Trickster inspires someone to think, &quot;I can get away with this, and Rule The World!!! Bwaaa-haaa-haaa-haa-ha!!!&quot; (I wonder how the Phoenicians did as well as they did for as long as they apparently did...)

Our Gen. Curtis Lemay and various members of &quot;The World&#039;s Greatest Deliberative Body&quot; were all about &#039;nuking &#039;em back to the stone age&#039; not so long ago, and just look at the curves and charts presented so aptly by our dinner host showing how well various doctrines and strategies and tactics and procurements and programs have served &quot;us.&quot; And in the public mind, the cost of the Great War On Terror is being paid for with &quot;government money&quot; and happening Somewhere Else to Sombody Else&#039;s Loved Ones and Communities. So mentally, for most of us, it&#039;s like the cost of gasoline or sugar. Not even in the stupid realm of Econ 101 supply and demand any more. The big rolling price signs are just part of the visual clutter. The vast mostness of us &quot;voters&quot;  just zip the plastic through the slot, and whatever rolls around in the little windows on the slot machine, that&#039;s how many gallons of liquid death we &quot;win&quot; with this spin.

The Third Reich took a shot at it, without the intended effect. And of course look where $2, or is it $3, or maybe $4 trillion is going off to these days...

On a personal pet peeve note, I love the post hoc treatment accorded Leni Riefenstahl, whose Trickster-inspiration and Dedication To Her Art kind of helped boost us all along toward Where We Are Going To Be Tomorrow-Land. Say the Aesthetes, &quot;Art transcends society, Art is Unjudgeable and Unaccountable. Art Just Is, And Is To Be Worshipped And The Artist To Be Lionized.&quot; Y&#039;know, I bet that around the old sacred purifying fires in the God-Lodges of &quot;pre-literate Man,&quot; the story tellers that produced stuff as deadly to the tribe as Lady Leni, and so many others at the interface of Art and Poetry and Prose and Power Accumulation, probably at best learned what it meant to be &quot;ostracized,&quot; if not straightaway garrotted and their bodies burned Beyond the Pale.

&quot;Kill all the Pashtun people&quot;? Let&#039;s see, what happens next after that? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/91485&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There&#039;s always the players for the next act, weapons at high port, standing in their uniforms in the wings, waiting for their cues.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fentex, please don&#8217;t fall for or propagate the Engineer-Generals&#8217; notion that &#8220;killing all the enemy&#8221; is ever possible.</p>
<p>Us mopes who feed our wealth and our bodies and souls into the Maw of the Machine may get off on the notion of terminal and complete brutality on the people who happen to be labeled today with the umbrella psychic construct we all carry from birth, &#8220;the Enemy,&#8221; but that&#8217;s so far from real-world possible&#8230;</p>
<p>And you blithely say &#8220;Afghanistan could be won&#8230;&#8221; May I ask for your definition of &#8220;Winning?&#8221; That seems to be one of the many huge holes in what passes for &#8220;policy-making&#8221; now. &#8220;We&#8221; just &#8220;Know&#8221; that &#8220;With Enough Troops, We Can Surely Win If We Just Expend Enough Of The Right Resources.&#8221; Don&#8217;t see no fucking endpoint, let alone point of aim, in any of this.</p>
<p>The set of &#8220;deciders&#8221; in the nationalist/political/military complex that considers genocide needs not only to be &#8220;prepared,&#8221; that is, to <a>have the Will to &#8220;kill all your enemies.&#8221;</a> Those considerers have to also have the actual physical capability to wipe out, without committing suicide on the way, or in their hubris doing what obviously happens in every Empire-Death, making a shitload of new &#8220;enemies&#8221; while so weakening the Empire that the wheel just has to fucking turn again. Of course, our species&#8217; new skills, like custom assembly of genes and proteins, and all the wonderful potential of nanotechnology that also may make a few rich for a short while until the Trickster inspires someone to think, &#8220;I can get away with this, and Rule The World!!! Bwaaa-haaa-haaa-haa-ha!!!&#8221; (I wonder how the Phoenicians did as well as they did for as long as they apparently did&#8230;)</p>
<p>Our Gen. Curtis Lemay and various members of &#8220;The World&#8217;s Greatest Deliberative Body&#8221; were all about &#8216;nuking &#8216;em back to the stone age&#8217; not so long ago, and just look at the curves and charts presented so aptly by our dinner host showing how well various doctrines and strategies and tactics and procurements and programs have served &#8220;us.&#8221; And in the public mind, the cost of the Great War On Terror is being paid for with &#8220;government money&#8221; and happening Somewhere Else to Sombody Else&#8217;s Loved Ones and Communities. So mentally, for most of us, it&#8217;s like the cost of gasoline or sugar. Not even in the stupid realm of Econ 101 supply and demand any more. The big rolling price signs are just part of the visual clutter. The vast mostness of us &#8220;voters&#8221;  just zip the plastic through the slot, and whatever rolls around in the little windows on the slot machine, that&#8217;s how many gallons of liquid death we &#8220;win&#8221; with this spin.</p>
<p>The Third Reich took a shot at it, without the intended effect. And of course look where $2, or is it $3, or maybe $4 trillion is going off to these days&#8230;</p>
<p>On a personal pet peeve note, I love the post hoc treatment accorded Leni Riefenstahl, whose Trickster-inspiration and Dedication To Her Art kind of helped boost us all along toward Where We Are Going To Be Tomorrow-Land. Say the Aesthetes, &#8220;Art transcends society, Art is Unjudgeable and Unaccountable. Art Just Is, And Is To Be Worshipped And The Artist To Be Lionized.&#8221; Y&#8217;know, I bet that around the old sacred purifying fires in the God-Lodges of &#8220;pre-literate Man,&#8221; the story tellers that produced stuff as deadly to the tribe as Lady Leni, and so many others at the interface of Art and Poetry and Prose and Power Accumulation, probably at best learned what it meant to be &#8220;ostracized,&#8221; if not straightaway garrotted and their bodies burned Beyond the Pale.</p>
<p>&#8220;Kill all the Pashtun people&#8221;? Let&#8217;s see, what happens next after that? <a href="http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/91485" rel="nofollow">There&#8217;s always the players for the next act, weapons at high port, standing in their uniforms in the wings, waiting for their cues.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fentex</title>
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		<description>Sure they do - if you&#039;re prepared to kill all your enemies.

Afghanistan could be won, if the U.S was prepared to exterminate the Pushtun people.

Only a few hundred years ago nations didn&#039;t baulk at such solutions, it&#039;s at least one pleasing mercy that there isn&#039;t as much of that going on any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure they do &#8211; if you&#8217;re prepared to kill all your enemies.</p>
<p>Afghanistan could be won, if the U.S was prepared to exterminate the Pushtun people.</p>
<p>Only a few hundred years ago nations didn&#8217;t baulk at such solutions, it&#8217;s at least one pleasing mercy that there isn&#8217;t as much of that going on any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Fentex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fentex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure they do - if you&#039;re prepared to kill all your enemies.

Afghanistan could be won, if the U.S was prepared to exterminate the Pushtun people.

Only a few hundred years ago nations didn&#039;t baulk at such solutions, it&#039;s at least one pleasing mercy that there isn&#039;t as much of that going on any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure they do &#8211; if you&#8217;re prepared to kill all your enemies.</p>
<p>Afghanistan could be won, if the U.S was prepared to exterminate the Pushtun people.</p>
<p>Only a few hundred years ago nations didn&#8217;t baulk at such solutions, it&#8217;s at least one pleasing mercy that there isn&#8217;t as much of that going on any more.</p>
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		<title>By: bernard</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at Vietnam, both French and Americans were defeated. Bigger guns and more money don&#039;t mean shit.</description>
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		<description>Look at Vietnam, both French and Americans were defeated. Bigger guns and more money don&#039;t mean shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at Vietnam, both French and Americans were defeated. Bigger guns and more money don&#8217;t mean shit.</p>
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