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		<title>By: bernard</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2009/10/30/military-industrial-swamp/comment-page-1/#comment-51406</link>
		<dc:creator>bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bad omen indeed. So wars are created in order to sell more and better guns. No matter what &quot; have a gun will travel&quot; is it ?

You know it comes to a point where reality becomes a total cliche of bad taste. Kish.
Dante´s inferno in 3D. awesome. I think I ll go and have a beer and meditate for a while...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bad omen indeed. So wars are created in order to sell more and better guns. No matter what &#8221; have a gun will travel&#8221; is it ?</p>
<p>You know it comes to a point where reality becomes a total cliche of bad taste. Kish.<br />
Dante´s inferno in 3D. awesome. I think I ll go and have a beer and meditate for a while&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JTMcPhee</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2009/10/30/military-industrial-swamp/comment-page-1/#comment-51405</link>
		<dc:creator>JTMcPhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Those who have eyes to see, let them see. those who have ears to hear, let them hear. Those who have mad up &#039;military mission requirements,&#039; let them go to Israel Aircraft International or Grumman-Northrop or Textron or Saab or Oerlikon or FAL or Colt...&quot; All of which are such whores of Babylon that they happily sell weapons of ass destruction to present and potential &quot;enemy&quot; states for whatever the traffic will bear.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/RUSSIA110309.xml&amp;headline=Russian Air Force Seeks New UAVs&amp;channel=defense

Hey, it&#039;s not just about a steady income stream -- it&#039;s about finding every possible permutation of combat and conflict and niche of infliction of destruction, and designing and peddling a weapon system to fit. And then not giving a shit if it ends up being used on your own people, or on people who, having been shot up by your weapons, decide maybe YOU are an enemy too, or their government, even an elected one, gets killed off or deposed, and suddenly there&#039;s a new swirl of chaos where you thought you had a &quot;valued trading partner&quot; or &quot;trustworthy ally.&quot;

Too bad we soft targets who pay for all this shit can&#039;t get it through our thick skulls that the military industrial slime mold is a global organism, no respecter of nations or boundaries or decency, speaking a different and inhuman language, thinking machine thoughts, and living off pretexts of adversity just to make a good buck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those who have eyes to see, let them see. those who have ears to hear, let them hear. Those who have mad up &#8216;military mission requirements,&#8217; let them go to Israel Aircraft International or Grumman-Northrop or Textron or Saab or Oerlikon or FAL or Colt&#8230;&#8221; All of which are such whores of Babylon that they happily sell weapons of ass destruction to present and potential &#8220;enemy&#8221; states for whatever the traffic will bear.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/RUSSIA110309.xml&amp;headline=Russian" rel="nofollow">http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/RUSSIA110309.xml&amp;headline=Russian</a> Air Force Seeks New UAVs&amp;channel=defense</p>
<p>Hey, it&#8217;s not just about a steady income stream &#8212; it&#8217;s about finding every possible permutation of combat and conflict and niche of infliction of destruction, and designing and peddling a weapon system to fit. And then not giving a shit if it ends up being used on your own people, or on people who, having been shot up by your weapons, decide maybe YOU are an enemy too, or their government, even an elected one, gets killed off or deposed, and suddenly there&#8217;s a new swirl of chaos where you thought you had a &#8220;valued trading partner&#8221; or &#8220;trustworthy ally.&#8221;</p>
<p>Too bad we soft targets who pay for all this shit can&#8217;t get it through our thick skulls that the military industrial slime mold is a global organism, no respecter of nations or boundaries or decency, speaking a different and inhuman language, thinking machine thoughts, and living off pretexts of adversity just to make a good buck.</p>
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		<title>By: bernard</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2009/10/30/military-industrial-swamp/comment-page-1/#comment-51404</link>
		<dc:creator>bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Ien.

Shoot for the stars is an analogy it means , end the wars , a new approach to medicine. transportation, energy,  climate , rational use of resources food and a general political approach more in tone with peace and prosperity..   .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Ien.</p>
<p>Shoot for the stars is an analogy it means , end the wars , a new approach to medicine. transportation, energy,  climate , rational use of resources food and a general political approach more in tone with peace and prosperity..   .</p>
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		<title>By: len</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2009/10/30/military-industrial-swamp/comment-page-1/#comment-51403</link>
		<dc:creator>len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are.   He is responsible for the political capital he spends but not the price tags.   The old saying is &quot;pick your battles&quot;.    From the beginning Obama has been the focus of uneasy and conflicting coalitions who all want what they want as soon as possible.  Given the times, the expectations are too high and the goals unrealistic in some cases.

Priorities clearly conveyed seem optimal but they come at the cost of letting some allies go wanting.   When the press and the Beckbaugh is hammering at every sign of weakness or retrenchment, one has to learn to stay focused some number of spin cycles ahead.   It&#039;s a little like sailing; back and forth toward the dock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are.   He is responsible for the political capital he spends but not the price tags.   The old saying is &#8220;pick your battles&#8221;.    From the beginning Obama has been the focus of uneasy and conflicting coalitions who all want what they want as soon as possible.  Given the times, the expectations are too high and the goals unrealistic in some cases.</p>
<p>Priorities clearly conveyed seem optimal but they come at the cost of letting some allies go wanting.   When the press and the Beckbaugh is hammering at every sign of weakness or retrenchment, one has to learn to stay focused some number of spin cycles ahead.   It&#8217;s a little like sailing; back and forth toward the dock.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernard, the &quot;shot for the stars&quot; seems to have been militarized from the get-go...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernard, the &#8220;shot for the stars&#8221; seems to have been militarized from the get-go&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ien. I know that the chief executive is not responsible for Congress but at the end he is responsible for the outcome of his administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ien. I know that the chief executive is not responsible for Congress but at the end he is responsible for the outcome of his administration.</p>
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		<title>By: bernard</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money controls politics...not always, there comes a time when words ( the French revolution) have a meaning.History will tell you that when politicians loose grasp of the reality they falter. The moral of this is that you cannot build the future with your head buried in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money controls politics&#8230;not always, there comes a time when words ( the French revolution) have a meaning.History will tell you that when politicians loose grasp of the reality they falter. The moral of this is that you cannot build the future with your head buried in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t have to apologize to an old Hippie. I understand your drift and hope and work for  unity in a common ideal as well, without dogmas, pure creation. Maybe mankind will finally get tired of fighting and shoot for the stars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to apologize to an old Hippie. I understand your drift and hope and work for  unity in a common ideal as well, without dogmas, pure creation. Maybe mankind will finally get tired of fighting and shoot for the stars.</p>
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		<title>By: len</title>
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		<dc:creator>len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes a worried man to sing a worried song.</description>
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		<title>By: len</title>
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		<dc:creator>len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good analogy.  It takes a well-coordinated and disciplined crew to turn a battleship.

And practice.   Even very good players take time to get a crisp sound.   Health care is just one act.

Bernard:  the chief executive is not responsible for congress.  Separation of powers is built into the constitution to prevent exactly that.   Unfortunately, what the founders did not account for is a time when the money required to be elected is so large that as soon as a member is elected, they immediately have to raise money.  That leaves them subject to the contributors and the party.  The president is head of the party.  That gives them some influence but the overlap of the contributors and the party creates a byzantine dynamic.

Today they don&#039;t fear the people.   They fear the money Obama&#039;s machine raised.   Somehow we have to change that from representation controlled by fear into representation led by values.

Old hippie thinking maybe but a lot of young realize the DFHs are right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good analogy.  It takes a well-coordinated and disciplined crew to turn a battleship.</p>
<p>And practice.   Even very good players take time to get a crisp sound.   Health care is just one act.</p>
<p>Bernard:  the chief executive is not responsible for congress.  Separation of powers is built into the constitution to prevent exactly that.   Unfortunately, what the founders did not account for is a time when the money required to be elected is so large that as soon as a member is elected, they immediately have to raise money.  That leaves them subject to the contributors and the party.  The president is head of the party.  That gives them some influence but the overlap of the contributors and the party creates a byzantine dynamic.</p>
<p>Today they don&#8217;t fear the people.   They fear the money Obama&#8217;s machine raised.   Somehow we have to change that from representation controlled by fear into representation led by values.</p>
<p>Old hippie thinking maybe but a lot of young realize the DFHs are right.</p>
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