The Death Of Conservatism
February 27th, 2009 by Jon Taplin
The tide began to turn this week as the polls show, but as I watched Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove go for broke this week–fulminating about Obama’s “Radical” budget, I thought,
“No shit, Sherlock”.
The 3 Bozos [Rove, Limbaugh & Hannity] – not to name call, but to brand, don’t really understand the magnitude of the animosity in America today because if they did, and were able to take it up, it would negate their position, power and most of their lives. It simply can’t happen.
What is happening is that they are increasingly marginalizing themselves and their supporters and will continue to head that way until they fall off of their flat world.
And it will be no great loss at all – in fact the force may be increased with their demise.
The 3 Bozos [Rove, Limbaugh & Hannity] – not to name call, but to brand, don’t really understand the magnitude of the animosity in America today because if they did, and were able to take it up, it would negate their position, power and most of their lives. It simply can’t happen.
What is happening is that they are increasingly marginalizing themselves and their supporters and will continue to head that way until they fall off of their flat world.
And it will be no great loss at all – in fact the force may be increased with their demise.
Jon, you are way too intoxicated to be driving this site. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid for today. But you do throw a good party.
Jon, you are way too intoxicated to be driving this site. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid for today. But you do throw a good party.
Davaudian-It is radical. That’s not koolaid.
Davaudian-It is radical. That’s not koolaid.
Ha, I knew that. But you are intoxicated!
Ha, I knew that. But you are intoxicated!
I wonder if Obama’s popularity will withstand the dow at 3500 and unemployment at 15% or better? Because that’s exactly the road we are headed down.
Bush’s growth of government was huge, but Obama has equaled it in less than three weeks in office.
Who will pay for this? This level of spending is unsustainable.
Don’t take this the wrong way. If you like Obama that’s great. But, will somebody tell me how all of this spending adds up? Obama’s plan to cut the deficit AFTER all of this spending only returns us to where we are right now.
Bush lied. So has Obama. My point is all of these guys are the same regardless of the D or R next to their name.
If Limbaugh and Hannity are bozos what are Olbermann and Mathews? Exactly the same… same animosity, same bitches, but from the liberal perspective.
What this country is about to face economically transcends all of this partisan BS. But, hey… we can all talk it over in the bread line four or five years from now.
I wonder if Obama’s popularity will withstand the dow at 3500 and unemployment at 15% or better? Because that’s exactly the road we are headed down.
Bush’s growth of government was huge, but Obama has equaled it in less than three weeks in office.
Who will pay for this? This level of spending is unsustainable.
Don’t take this the wrong way. If you like Obama that’s great. But, will somebody tell me how all of this spending adds up? Obama’s plan to cut the deficit AFTER all of this spending only returns us to where we are right now.
Bush lied. So has Obama. My point is all of these guys are the same regardless of the D or R next to their name.
If Limbaugh and Hannity are bozos what are Olbermann and Mathews? Exactly the same… same animosity, same bitches, but from the liberal perspective.
What this country is about to face economically transcends all of this partisan BS. But, hey… we can all talk it over in the bread line four or five years from now.
Davaudian – I think you’re projecting.
You seem wasted.
Davaudian – I think you’re projecting.
You seem wasted.
Noel, projecting is different. I’m having fun but you should read what Mike just wrote. You can’t announce the death of your enemies like that…it’s not very Sun Tzu….Jon knows that.
Noel, projecting is different. I’m having fun but you should read what Mike just wrote. You can’t announce the death of your enemies like that…it’s not very Sun Tzu….Jon knows that.
You know, guys, no one man (or woman) can do it for us. FDR said rightly that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself, and no matter how cleverly we may package it, or what wisdom in which me may cloak it, anything we do to contribute to the fear contributes nothing but the fear.
It is indeed a very scary world out there; and there are any number of ways to make it worse. But, though I am as clean and sober as can be — no koolaid in this house — the one thing I guarantee: the most damaging thing we can do is decide that all is lost and it will only get worse.
As someone said on another thread, if 8% are not paying their mortgages, 92% are paying them; if unemployment is 10%, close to 90% are still working. (Yes, I do know how the statistics are calculated; but the forest/trees argument stands.)
We have a choice: we can look for — and look to support the UP side; or we can look for — and give in to — the down side. The former may take a little work; but who out there is willing to admit to throwing up your hands, giving in, and letting the rest of the world control your future?
You know, guys, no one man (or woman) can do it for us. FDR said rightly that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself, and no matter how cleverly we may package it, or what wisdom in which me may cloak it, anything we do to contribute to the fear contributes nothing but the fear.
It is indeed a very scary world out there; and there are any number of ways to make it worse. But, though I am as clean and sober as can be — no koolaid in this house — the one thing I guarantee: the most damaging thing we can do is decide that all is lost and it will only get worse.
As someone said on another thread, if 8% are not paying their mortgages, 92% are paying them; if unemployment is 10%, close to 90% are still working. (Yes, I do know how the statistics are calculated; but the forest/trees argument stands.)
We have a choice: we can look for — and look to support the UP side; or we can look for — and give in to — the down side. The former may take a little work; but who out there is willing to admit to throwing up your hands, giving in, and letting the rest of the world control your future?
Mike,
Inheriting a problem is worlds away from being a part of it.
Also, Glenn Beck should be included with Rush and the bunch as the king of the morons.
Mike,
Inheriting a problem is worlds away from being a part of it.
Also, Glenn Beck should be included with Rush and the bunch as the king of the morons.
It’s fascinating to watch the mystified reaction of the body politic – across the political spectrum – to a politician who gets elected, and then begins to do EXACTLY what he said he was going to do during the campaign.
Is there no precedent for this?
Have we become so comfortable with lying that that truthfulness is suddenly awkward?
It’s fascinating to watch the mystified reaction of the body politic – across the political spectrum – to a politician who gets elected, and then begins to do EXACTLY what he said he was going to do during the campaign.
Is there no precedent for this?
Have we become so comfortable with lying that that truthfulness is suddenly awkward?
http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2009/02/finally-progressive-budget.html
“President Obama’s new budget is, well, audacious — not just because it includes several big, audacious initiatives (universally affordable health care, and a cap-and-trade system for coping with global warming, for starters) but also because it represents the biggest redistribution of income from the wealthy to the middle class and poor this nation has seen in more than forty years.”
Mike: I see it slightly differently. My analogy is the Titanic. Bush was the Captain that steered the economy into the iceberg. With the ship sinking, he hands over the reins to Obama. Now Obama has a choice. Do nothing, ignore the list on the ship and hope that the advice from the right that the ship is unsinkable is true, or do everything in his power to prevent the Titanic from sinking. When you are talking about a $14 trillion economy, a stimulus the size of $800 billion is required to keep it afloat. My criticism of Obama, is that he isn’t doing enough, fast enough (i.e., nationalizing the TBTF banks.)
http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2009/02/finally-progressive-budget.html
“President Obama’s new budget is, well, audacious — not just because it includes several big, audacious initiatives (universally affordable health care, and a cap-and-trade system for coping with global warming, for starters) but also because it represents the biggest redistribution of income from the wealthy to the middle class and poor this nation has seen in more than forty years.”
Mike: I see it slightly differently. My analogy is the Titanic. Bush was the Captain that steered the economy into the iceberg. With the ship sinking, he hands over the reins to Obama. Now Obama has a choice. Do nothing, ignore the list on the ship and hope that the advice from the right that the ship is unsinkable is true, or do everything in his power to prevent the Titanic from sinking. When you are talking about a $14 trillion economy, a stimulus the size of $800 billion is required to keep it afloat. My criticism of Obama, is that he isn’t doing enough, fast enough (i.e., nationalizing the TBTF banks.)
Wow — “Bush lied. Obama lied.” Total equivalence. QED.
(By the way, in real numbers of real people, unemployment is probably at or beyond 15% right now.)
Interesting — is there a widespread boy-girl split of intuitions in the polity? Other than the harridans with the True-Red Testosterone Levels (Colter, et al.) who get paid the big bucks to spew the spittle, is it the case that the distaff side is handling all this better than the square-jawed, pre-violent, Y-chromosomal side? Just asking — I don’t know.
Boys, maybe we DO need to get in better touch with our feminine sides.
Unless the best we can do is give in to our hard-wired need to Find, Fix and Kill “The Enemy,” whoever the Old Guys tell us that is, for the Greater Good of the Tribe (and the right to bellow, thump our chests, and eat the liver and heart of the fallen foe.)
Wow — “Bush lied. Obama lied.” Total equivalence. It’s all clear to me now. QED.
Wow — “Bush lied. Obama lied.” Total equivalence. QED.
(By the way, in real numbers of real people, unemployment is probably at or beyond 15% right now.)
Interesting — is there a widespread boy-girl split of intuitions in the polity? Other than the harridans with the True-Red Testosterone Levels (Colter, et al.) who get paid the big bucks to spew the spittle, is it the case that the distaff side is handling all this better than the square-jawed, pre-violent, Y-chromosomal side? Just asking — I don’t know.
Boys, maybe we DO need to get in better touch with our feminine sides.
Unless the best we can do is give in to our hard-wired need to Find, Fix and Kill “The Enemy,” whoever the Old Guys tell us that is, for the Greater Good of the Tribe (and the right to bellow, thump our chests, and eat the liver and heart of the fallen foe.)
Wow — “Bush lied. Obama lied.” Total equivalence. It’s all clear to me now. QED.
“Bush lied. So has Obama. My point is all of these guys are the same regardless of the D or R next to their name.”
By that logic, Hitler lied, so Bush, Obama and Hitler are all the same, regardless of the D or R or N next to their name.
Bush lied (a fact) and started a phony war that caused the deaths of 600,000 Iraqi civilians and 4,700 American troops.
Obama “lied” in the sense that you don’t like what he’s doing. I’m not at all sure I like it either. I agree with you that things are going to get a lot worse. You seem to imply they will get worse because of Obama. I think things are going to get worse because of the financial cesspool that eight years of Steal It All Now Republican government.
That same government wants to respond to the cesspool by again cutting taxes for the wealthy and allowing the “free cesspool” to fix itself. If several million at the bottom drop into starvation, that’s what God’s Own Capitalism intended.
That is my definition of unsustainable.
“Bush lied. So has Obama. My point is all of these guys are the same regardless of the D or R next to their name.”
By that logic, Hitler lied, so Bush, Obama and Hitler are all the same, regardless of the D or R or N next to their name.
Bush lied (a fact) and started a phony war that caused the deaths of 600,000 Iraqi civilians and 4,700 American troops.
Obama “lied” in the sense that you don’t like what he’s doing. I’m not at all sure I like it either. I agree with you that things are going to get a lot worse. You seem to imply they will get worse because of Obama. I think things are going to get worse because of the financial cesspool that eight years of Steal It All Now Republican government.
That same government wants to respond to the cesspool by again cutting taxes for the wealthy and allowing the “free cesspool” to fix itself. If several million at the bottom drop into starvation, that’s what God’s Own Capitalism intended.
That is my definition of unsustainable.
Prof. Taplin, the thing a Hollywood person ought to know is that it’s never wise or correct to call anything monstrous “dead.” Just ask Jason, and Freddie Krueger, and Chucky, and Glenn Close in “Fatal Attraction,” and any number of young people who pay $15 to get their pants scared off by the “dead” things rising up out of their graves. And Newt Gingrich and that DeLay guy and probably even Dickless Cheney.
Prof. Taplin, the thing a Hollywood person ought to know is that it’s never wise or correct to call anything monstrous “dead.” Just ask Jason, and Freddie Krueger, and Chucky, and Glenn Close in “Fatal Attraction,” and any number of young people who pay $15 to get their pants scared off by the “dead” things rising up out of their graves. And Newt Gingrich and that DeLay guy and probably even Dickless Cheney.
Prof. Taplin, the thing a Hollywood person ought to know is that it’s never wise or correct to call anything monstrous “dead.” Just ask Jason, and Freddie Krueger, and Chucky, and Glenn Close in “Fatal Attraction,” and any number of young people who pay $15 to get their pants scared off by the “dead” things rising up out of their graves. And Newt Gingrich and that DeLay guy and probably even Dickless Cheney.
JTM-You mean sort of like a classic vampire movie? I’ll keep the garlic over the door.
JTM-You mean sort of like a classic vampire movie? I’ll keep the garlic over the door.
JTM-You mean sort of like a classic vampire movie? I’ll keep the garlic over the door.
JTM: Bravo, and dead on (excuse the pun).
That said, I think the GOP has got its work cut out. Obama has gone on record saying he expects vicious pushback from the major lobbies that have been benefitting from the very un-free market (even big government socialist) subsidies they’ve been getting from the ‘pro-business’ GOP.
Specifically, he said they’re preparing for a fight, and so is he. This is going to put the ‘loyal opposition’ into a tough spot. If they maintain their reactionary just say no stance, they’ll end up aligning themselves with some of the most hated players in American life.
So I guess that’s what we can expect to happen.
JTM: Bravo, and dead on (excuse the pun).
That said, I think the GOP has got its work cut out. Obama has gone on record saying he expects vicious pushback from the major lobbies that have been benefitting from the very un-free market (even big government socialist) subsidies they’ve been getting from the ‘pro-business’ GOP.
Specifically, he said they’re preparing for a fight, and so is he. This is going to put the ‘loyal opposition’ into a tough spot. If they maintain their reactionary just say no stance, they’ll end up aligning themselves with some of the most hated players in American life.
So I guess that’s what we can expect to happen.
JTM: Bravo, and dead on (excuse the pun).
That said, I think the GOP has got its work cut out. Obama has gone on record saying he expects vicious pushback from the major lobbies that have been benefitting from the very un-free market (even big government socialist) subsidies they’ve been getting from the ‘pro-business’ GOP.
Specifically, he said they’re preparing for a fight, and so is he. This is going to put the ‘loyal opposition’ into a tough spot. If they maintain their reactionary just say no stance, they’ll end up aligning themselves with some of the most hated players in American life.
So I guess that’s what we can expect to happen.
Mike & Dave SV,
I see “Thelma & Louise”, not the Titanic.
The draft budget released Thursday isn’t a reaction to the current economic and housing crises; it’s a post-crises vision for the country. This is a gamble of epic proportions.
By most accounts the crises are not only the most severe, they’re also the least understood in the modern era. They have successfully defied two administrations and legions of economists. To date, there still isn’t a consensus concerning their origins and most importantly their solutions.
Before discussing the merit of the post-crises vision (budget), how about an honest accounting of what went wrong and who’s accountable? Instead of continuing Bush’s “wet spaghetti” strategy, where are the solutions, the actual remedies for the cancers.
It’s not enough for the President to receive accolades for brazen and bold vision (this is expected, to do otherwise is newsworthy). He has to right; there are no second chances.
Mike & Dave SV,
I see “Thelma & Louise”, not the Titanic.
The draft budget released Thursday isn’t a reaction to the current economic and housing crises; it’s a post-crises vision for the country. This is a gamble of epic proportions.
By most accounts the crises are not only the most severe, they’re also the least understood in the modern era. They have successfully defied two administrations and legions of economists. To date, there still isn’t a consensus concerning their origins and most importantly their solutions.
Before discussing the merit of the post-crises vision (budget), how about an honest accounting of what went wrong and who’s accountable? Instead of continuing Bush’s “wet spaghetti” strategy, where are the solutions, the actual remedies for the cancers.
It’s not enough for the President to receive accolades for brazen and bold vision (this is expected, to do otherwise is newsworthy). He has to right; there are no second chances.
Mike & Dave SV,
I see “Thelma & Louise”, not the Titanic.
The draft budget released Thursday isn’t a reaction to the current economic and housing crises; it’s a post-crises vision for the country. This is a gamble of epic proportions.
By most accounts the crises are not only the most severe, they’re also the least understood in the modern era. They have successfully defied two administrations and legions of economists. To date, there still isn’t a consensus concerning their origins and most importantly their solutions.
Before discussing the merit of the post-crises vision (budget), how about an honest accounting of what went wrong and who’s accountable? Instead of continuing Bush’s “wet spaghetti” strategy, where are the solutions, the actual remedies for the cancers.
It’s not enough for the President to receive accolades for brazen and bold vision (this is expected, to do otherwise is newsworthy). He has to right; there are no second chances.
Ummm… one piece of the puzzle. Look at the trade in intellectual property and high tech prior to the web, open source, and services as the basis of the market prior to say 1994, then look at what begins to happen as the web increasingly becomes the foundation. How much did Microsoft contribute prior to this?
Again just a piece, but consider the price of the so-called “frictionless economy” when the most valuable pieces for those markets, core software and content, have to be ‘free’. What are the VCs getting back from those startups? Is Facebook a bubble as Netscape was?
Signs of the time: Google was making good revenue from ads. They still are yet last week they informed us that while 10k bought 2 million hits for third party use behind the firewall this month, next month it will buy 250,000. Say price spike. That’s life in the cloud.
What do smart businessmen do in times of financial crisis? They inventory what is theirs and revalue it.
Ummm… one piece of the puzzle. Look at the trade in intellectual property and high tech prior to the web, open source, and services as the basis of the market prior to say 1994, then look at what begins to happen as the web increasingly becomes the foundation. How much did Microsoft contribute prior to this?
Again just a piece, but consider the price of the so-called “frictionless economy” when the most valuable pieces for those markets, core software and content, have to be ‘free’. What are the VCs getting back from those startups? Is Facebook a bubble as Netscape was?
Signs of the time: Google was making good revenue from ads. They still are yet last week they informed us that while 10k bought 2 million hits for third party use behind the firewall this month, next month it will buy 250,000. Say price spike. That’s life in the cloud.
What do smart businessmen do in times of financial crisis? They inventory what is theirs and revalue it.
Ummm… one piece of the puzzle. Look at the trade in intellectual property and high tech prior to the web, open source, and services as the basis of the market prior to say 1994, then look at what begins to happen as the web increasingly becomes the foundation. How much did Microsoft contribute prior to this?
Again just a piece, but consider the price of the so-called “frictionless economy” when the most valuable pieces for those markets, core software and content, have to be ‘free’. What are the VCs getting back from those startups? Is Facebook a bubble as Netscape was?
Signs of the time: Google was making good revenue from ads. They still are yet last week they informed us that while 10k bought 2 million hits for third party use behind the firewall this month, next month it will buy 250,000. Say price spike. That’s life in the cloud.
What do smart businessmen do in times of financial crisis? They inventory what is theirs and revalue it.
Ummm… one piece of the puzzle. Look at the trade in intellectual property and high tech prior to the web, open source, and services as the basis of the market prior to say 1994, then look at what begins to happen as the web increasingly becomes the foundation. How much did Microsoft contribute prior to this?
Again just a piece, but consider the price of the so-called “frictionless economy” when the most valuable pieces for those markets, core software and content, have to be ‘free’. What are the VCs getting back from those startups? Is Facebook a bubble as Netscape was?
Signs of the time: Google was making good revenue from ads. They still are yet last week they informed us that while 10k bought 2 million hits for third party use behind the firewall this month, next month it will buy 250,000. Say price spike. That’s life in the cloud.
What do smart businessmen do in times of financial crisis? They inventory what is theirs and revalue it.
When, in disgrace with fortune and men’s eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries
And look upon myself and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possess’d,
Desiring this man’s art and that’s man’s scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven’s gate;
For thy sweet love remember’d such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.
W. Shakespeare
When, in disgrace with fortune and men’s eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries
And look upon myself and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possess’d,
Desiring this man’s art and that’s man’s scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven’s gate;
For thy sweet love remember’d such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.
W. Shakespeare
When, in disgrace with fortune and men’s eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries
And look upon myself and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possess’d,
Desiring this man’s art and that’s man’s scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven’s gate;
For thy sweet love remember’d such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.
W. Shakespeare
When, in disgrace with fortune and men’s eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries
And look upon myself and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possess’d,
Desiring this man’s art and that’s man’s scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven’s gate;
For thy sweet love remember’d such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.
W. Shakespeare
I was asked by my 92-year-old grandmother to explain what I thought Obama’s plans and strategy were all about. She doesn’t vote or follow politics; she’s still too mad about Vatican II.
The best I could do was, we’re like an alcoholic, college-dropout house-painter with a seriously sick child who has finally hit rock bottom as the last credit-card has run out; and now, newly clean and sober, with no resources, we’re begging and stealing and writing bad checks to finish the college degree we should have finished fifteen years ago, hoping desperately that if we pull it off, we’ll get a much better job, with health benefits for our kid and a high enough salary to begin to pay off the debts that we have no hope of handling on a painter’s pay.
It’s a hell of a risk, parts of it maybe even illegal, and it all comes down to can we hold it together and work our ass off and get the degree and the job and the rest of it fast enough to save ourselves, and our family and our sick kid.
It’s gut-check time. We have to invest every bit of effort, time, and money we can scrape up or steal, and hope that the bet pays off. Our own addictions and shortsightedness got us into this, and if we do nothing, our kid will die.
I was asked by my 92-year-old grandmother to explain what I thought Obama’s plans and strategy were all about. She doesn’t vote or follow politics; she’s still too mad about Vatican II.
The best I could do was, we’re like an alcoholic, college-dropout house-painter with a seriously sick child who has finally hit rock bottom as the last credit-card has run out; and now, newly clean and sober, with no resources, we’re begging and stealing and writing bad checks to finish the college degree we should have finished fifteen years ago, hoping desperately that if we pull it off, we’ll get a much better job, with health benefits for our kid and a high enough salary to begin to pay off the debts that we have no hope of handling on a painter’s pay.
It’s a hell of a risk, parts of it maybe even illegal, and it all comes down to can we hold it together and work our ass off and get the degree and the job and the rest of it fast enough to save ourselves, and our family and our sick kid.
It’s gut-check time. We have to invest every bit of effort, time, and money we can scrape up or steal, and hope that the bet pays off. Our own addictions and shortsightedness got us into this, and if we do nothing, our kid will die.
I was asked by my 92-year-old grandmother to explain what I thought Obama’s plans and strategy were all about. She doesn’t vote or follow politics; she’s still too mad about Vatican II.
The best I could do was, we’re like an alcoholic, college-dropout house-painter with a seriously sick child who has finally hit rock bottom as the last credit-card has run out; and now, newly clean and sober, with no resources, we’re begging and stealing and writing bad checks to finish the college degree we should have finished fifteen years ago, hoping desperately that if we pull it off, we’ll get a much better job, with health benefits for our kid and a high enough salary to begin to pay off the debts that we have no hope of handling on a painter’s pay.
It’s a hell of a risk, parts of it maybe even illegal, and it all comes down to can we hold it together and work our ass off and get the degree and the job and the rest of it fast enough to save ourselves, and our family and our sick kid.
It’s gut-check time. We have to invest every bit of effort, time, and money we can scrape up or steal, and hope that the bet pays off. Our own addictions and shortsightedness got us into this, and if we do nothing, our kid will die.
Meanwhile, the developers and contractors and drug lords and liquor storeowners are all at their winter retreats in Cancun and Costa Rica and the Cote d’Or, while their people and advertisers are working real hard to hook you back up.
Meanwhile, the developers and contractors and drug lords and liquor storeowners are all at their winter retreats in Cancun and Costa Rica and the Cote d’Or, while their people and advertisers are working real hard to hook you back up.
Meanwhile, the developers and contractors and drug lords and liquor storeowners are all at their winter retreats in Cancun and Costa Rica and the Cote d’Or, while their people and advertisers are working real hard to hook you back up.
“Meanwhile, the developers and contractors and drug lords and liquor storeowners..”
I get where you were going, but that’s a funny group of people. Are they all on retreat together? Do the contractors fall above or below the liquor store owners on the social pecking order?
“Meanwhile, the developers and contractors and drug lords and liquor storeowners..”
I get where you were going, but that’s a funny group of people. Are they all on retreat together? Do the contractors fall above or below the liquor store owners on the social pecking order?