Seriously–Wall-E was awarded Best Picture by the LA Film Critics Association, but there are far too many actors in the Academy to ever let an animated film win the Best Picture Oscar.
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Fentex
Wall-E shouldn’t win any awards because it’s an appallingly bad movie.
I have to bite my tongue around friends children when the subject comes up because I despise that movie so avidly I’m in danger of scaring children should I vent my opinion.
I know I dislike it more than it’s flaws deserve because I feel betrayed by Pixar for failing so spectacularly when previously their movies have always been paragons of good story telling and attention to detail.
I summarise it’s faults thus: it’s violently internally inconsistent and insulting to audiences intelligence. Errors that are compounded by ruining a good idea for a story by telling it badly.
Two engaging characters do not replace good writing.
An example: Not long after having enjoyed gambolling in vacumm the protagonists are suddenly fearful of being pushed out an airlock.
Why? We have just been shown an extended scene of them explicitly enjoying being in vacuum. It makes no sense – but could easily have if the threat had been of being thrown in the engines instead.
What angers me (and I have to resist going on a prolonged rant) is the difference between doing it right and wrong is so small but the director of Wall-E ocnsistently gets it wrong.
Fentex
Wall-E shouldn’t win any awards because it’s an appallingly bad movie.
I have to bite my tongue around friends children when the subject comes up because I despise that movie so avidly I’m in danger of scaring children should I vent my opinion.
I know I dislike it more than it’s flaws deserve because I feel betrayed by Pixar for failing so spectacularly when previously their movies have always been paragons of good story telling and attention to detail.
I summarise it’s faults thus: it’s violently internally inconsistent and insulting to audiences intelligence. Errors that are compounded by ruining a good idea for a story by telling it badly.
Two engaging characters do not replace good writing.
An example: Not long after having enjoyed gambolling in vacumm the protagonists are suddenly fearful of being pushed out an airlock.
Why? We have just been shown an extended scene of them explicitly enjoying being in vacuum. It makes no sense – but could easily have if the threat had been of being thrown in the engines instead.
What angers me (and I have to resist going on a prolonged rant) is the difference between doing it right and wrong is so small but the director of Wall-E ocnsistently gets it wrong.
Funny post, Jon. It may even have some truth to it.
Wow, Fentex, I have almost the exact opinion as you. I think it deserves a Best Picture nod (although winning may be too much). Maybe I’ll notice some inconsistencies the next time I watch it, but it’s tied with The Incredibles as my favorite Pixar film.
Do you have any more examples of stuff that bugged you?
Funny post, Jon. It may even have some truth to it.
Wow, Fentex, I have almost the exact opinion as you. I think it deserves a Best Picture nod (although winning may be too much). Maybe I’ll notice some inconsistencies the next time I watch it, but it’s tied with The Incredibles as my favorite Pixar film.
Do you have any more examples of stuff that bugged you?
I have many. An essay of them if I can bear to write it.
Heres’ one: Eve is an explorer sent to find signs of life yet for no explained reason her immediate reaction to initial signs of life is to instantly attempt to annihilate it.
Why? It makes no sense. It’s an idiots idea of plugging drama into a situation without care.
The robots in command of the space ship don’t want humanity to go back to Earth but they send a probe to search for life anyway.
Why? It’d be a lot simpler to just not send the probe.
Here’s an example of the lack of attention to detail that boils my blood: the little cleaning robot that sees Wall-E’s muddy trail and immeidately scrubs it clean doesn’t do it’s job properly.
It’s constantly jumping into the middle of a trail and ignoring obvious filth. It wouldn’t take but two seconds of screen time to depict it going to the beginning of the trail and cleaning forward which is obviously how the character ought behave but the animators just didn’t bother.
Through out the enitre movie characters are inconsistent and untrue to what little motivation is ascribed to them – when they aren’t just simply pointless.
The disconcerting mixing of a live action person into the movie jars – why did that happen? I can’t help but think it’s a last minute addition a desperate editor demanded (without time to render animation) to attempt to tell a better story.
There’s…. aaaaargh! It drives me mad! Spaceships that rotate and have people slide across a floor!! That’s rediculous!
Wall-E may be an engaging character but his movie was absolute rubbish.
Fentex
I have many. An essay of them if I can bear to write it.
Heres’ one: Eve is an explorer sent to find signs of life yet for no explained reason her immediate reaction to initial signs of life is to instantly attempt to annihilate it.
Why? It makes no sense. It’s an idiots idea of plugging drama into a situation without care.
The robots in command of the space ship don’t want humanity to go back to Earth but they send a probe to search for life anyway.
Why? It’d be a lot simpler to just not send the probe.
Here’s an example of the lack of attention to detail that boils my blood: the little cleaning robot that sees Wall-E’s muddy trail and immeidately scrubs it clean doesn’t do it’s job properly.
It’s constantly jumping into the middle of a trail and ignoring obvious filth. It wouldn’t take but two seconds of screen time to depict it going to the beginning of the trail and cleaning forward which is obviously how the character ought behave but the animators just didn’t bother.
Through out the enitre movie characters are inconsistent and untrue to what little motivation is ascribed to them – when they aren’t just simply pointless.
The disconcerting mixing of a live action person into the movie jars – why did that happen? I can’t help but think it’s a last minute addition a desperate editor demanded (without time to render animation) to attempt to tell a better story.
There’s…. aaaaargh! It drives me mad! Spaceships that rotate and have people slide across a floor!! That’s rediculous!
Wall-E may be an engaging character but his movie was absolute rubbish.
Jose Mata
I’m completely with Fentex on this. The animation craft is impressive, but the storytelling is… robotic. There is little building of tension. I never felt like the characters were in any real danger, as in say, the trash compactor scene in Star Wars. It’s a Disneyland jungle cruise boat ride instead of a roller coaster. BTW, I loved The Incredibles.
Jose Mata
I’m completely with Fentex on this. The animation craft is impressive, but the storytelling is… robotic. There is little building of tension. I never felt like the characters were in any real danger, as in say, the trash compactor scene in Star Wars. It’s a Disneyland jungle cruise boat ride instead of a roller coaster. BTW, I loved The Incredibles.
Ken Ballweg
Actually I agree somewhat with Fentex, though not to the vehement extent.
We tend to give Pixar higher regard than other animation studios because the overall quality so much higher. It’s like Altman or the Coens getting a pass for the so so moments (O.C. and Stigs, Dr. T, or Intolerable Cruelty (which it was)) in light of their respective oeuvres.
But really, Wall-E isn’t best pic of ’08 by a mile. Best animation of the year, but not even in the nomination for best pic.
If this had been done as a motion capture the weakness of the story, dialog and pandering to progressive memes would have critics much more divided, if not down right derisive.
Ken Ballweg
Actually I agree somewhat with Fentex, though not to the vehement extent.
We tend to give Pixar higher regard than other animation studios because the overall quality so much higher. It’s like Altman or the Coens getting a pass for the so so moments (O.C. and Stigs, Dr. T, or Intolerable Cruelty (which it was)) in light of their respective oeuvres.
But really, Wall-E isn’t best pic of ’08 by a mile. Best animation of the year, but not even in the nomination for best pic.
If this had been done as a motion capture the weakness of the story, dialog and pandering to progressive memes would have critics much more divided, if not down right derisive.
@Fentex: 100% agreed. This was the most over-rated film I’ve suffered through in a long time. So many deserving works of art are passed over … for this? Sigh. Now I’M the one getting cranky w/ the culture.
@Fentex: 100% agreed. This was the most over-rated film I’ve suffered through in a long time. So many deserving works of art are passed over … for this? Sigh. Now I’M the one getting cranky w/ the culture.
Your “lack of attention to detail” and “inconsistensies” are in actuality an “I don’t want to think for myself and would rather the filmmakers tell me everything” rant. You are the lowest form of moviegoer, the kind that wants to be spoonfed.
Your “lack of attention to detail” and “inconsistensies” are in actuality an “I don’t want to think for myself and would rather the filmmakers tell me everything” rant. You are the lowest form of moviegoer, the kind that wants to be spoonfed.
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Wall-E shouldn’t win any awards because it’s an appallingly bad movie.
I have to bite my tongue around friends children when the subject comes up because I despise that movie so avidly I’m in danger of scaring children should I vent my opinion.
I know I dislike it more than it’s flaws deserve because I feel betrayed by Pixar for failing so spectacularly when previously their movies have always been paragons of good story telling and attention to detail.
I summarise it’s faults thus: it’s violently internally inconsistent and insulting to audiences intelligence. Errors that are compounded by ruining a good idea for a story by telling it badly.
Two engaging characters do not replace good writing.
An example: Not long after having enjoyed gambolling in vacumm the protagonists are suddenly fearful of being pushed out an airlock.
Why? We have just been shown an extended scene of them explicitly enjoying being in vacuum. It makes no sense – but could easily have if the threat had been of being thrown in the engines instead.
What angers me (and I have to resist going on a prolonged rant) is the difference between doing it right and wrong is so small but the director of Wall-E ocnsistently gets it wrong.
Wall-E shouldn’t win any awards because it’s an appallingly bad movie.
I have to bite my tongue around friends children when the subject comes up because I despise that movie so avidly I’m in danger of scaring children should I vent my opinion.
I know I dislike it more than it’s flaws deserve because I feel betrayed by Pixar for failing so spectacularly when previously their movies have always been paragons of good story telling and attention to detail.
I summarise it’s faults thus: it’s violently internally inconsistent and insulting to audiences intelligence. Errors that are compounded by ruining a good idea for a story by telling it badly.
Two engaging characters do not replace good writing.
An example: Not long after having enjoyed gambolling in vacumm the protagonists are suddenly fearful of being pushed out an airlock.
Why? We have just been shown an extended scene of them explicitly enjoying being in vacuum. It makes no sense – but could easily have if the threat had been of being thrown in the engines instead.
What angers me (and I have to resist going on a prolonged rant) is the difference between doing it right and wrong is so small but the director of Wall-E ocnsistently gets it wrong.
Funny post, Jon. It may even have some truth to it.
Wow, Fentex, I have almost the exact opinion as you. I think it deserves a Best Picture nod (although winning may be too much). Maybe I’ll notice some inconsistencies the next time I watch it, but it’s tied with The Incredibles as my favorite Pixar film.
Do you have any more examples of stuff that bugged you?
Funny post, Jon. It may even have some truth to it.
Wow, Fentex, I have almost the exact opinion as you. I think it deserves a Best Picture nod (although winning may be too much). Maybe I’ll notice some inconsistencies the next time I watch it, but it’s tied with The Incredibles as my favorite Pixar film.
Do you have any more examples of stuff that bugged you?
Meant to say almost exact *opposite* opinion.
Meant to say almost exact *opposite* opinion.
I have many. An essay of them if I can bear to write it.
Heres’ one: Eve is an explorer sent to find signs of life yet for no explained reason her immediate reaction to initial signs of life is to instantly attempt to annihilate it.
Why? It makes no sense. It’s an idiots idea of plugging drama into a situation without care.
The robots in command of the space ship don’t want humanity to go back to Earth but they send a probe to search for life anyway.
Why? It’d be a lot simpler to just not send the probe.
Here’s an example of the lack of attention to detail that boils my blood: the little cleaning robot that sees Wall-E’s muddy trail and immeidately scrubs it clean doesn’t do it’s job properly.
It’s constantly jumping into the middle of a trail and ignoring obvious filth. It wouldn’t take but two seconds of screen time to depict it going to the beginning of the trail and cleaning forward which is obviously how the character ought behave but the animators just didn’t bother.
Through out the enitre movie characters are inconsistent and untrue to what little motivation is ascribed to them – when they aren’t just simply pointless.
The disconcerting mixing of a live action person into the movie jars – why did that happen? I can’t help but think it’s a last minute addition a desperate editor demanded (without time to render animation) to attempt to tell a better story.
There’s…. aaaaargh! It drives me mad! Spaceships that rotate and have people slide across a floor!! That’s rediculous!
Wall-E may be an engaging character but his movie was absolute rubbish.
I have many. An essay of them if I can bear to write it.
Heres’ one: Eve is an explorer sent to find signs of life yet for no explained reason her immediate reaction to initial signs of life is to instantly attempt to annihilate it.
Why? It makes no sense. It’s an idiots idea of plugging drama into a situation without care.
The robots in command of the space ship don’t want humanity to go back to Earth but they send a probe to search for life anyway.
Why? It’d be a lot simpler to just not send the probe.
Here’s an example of the lack of attention to detail that boils my blood: the little cleaning robot that sees Wall-E’s muddy trail and immeidately scrubs it clean doesn’t do it’s job properly.
It’s constantly jumping into the middle of a trail and ignoring obvious filth. It wouldn’t take but two seconds of screen time to depict it going to the beginning of the trail and cleaning forward which is obviously how the character ought behave but the animators just didn’t bother.
Through out the enitre movie characters are inconsistent and untrue to what little motivation is ascribed to them – when they aren’t just simply pointless.
The disconcerting mixing of a live action person into the movie jars – why did that happen? I can’t help but think it’s a last minute addition a desperate editor demanded (without time to render animation) to attempt to tell a better story.
There’s…. aaaaargh! It drives me mad! Spaceships that rotate and have people slide across a floor!! That’s rediculous!
Wall-E may be an engaging character but his movie was absolute rubbish.
I’m completely with Fentex on this. The animation craft is impressive, but the storytelling is… robotic. There is little building of tension. I never felt like the characters were in any real danger, as in say, the trash compactor scene in Star Wars. It’s a Disneyland jungle cruise boat ride instead of a roller coaster. BTW, I loved The Incredibles.
I’m completely with Fentex on this. The animation craft is impressive, but the storytelling is… robotic. There is little building of tension. I never felt like the characters were in any real danger, as in say, the trash compactor scene in Star Wars. It’s a Disneyland jungle cruise boat ride instead of a roller coaster. BTW, I loved The Incredibles.
Actually I agree somewhat with Fentex, though not to the vehement extent.
We tend to give Pixar higher regard than other animation studios because the overall quality so much higher. It’s like Altman or the Coens getting a pass for the so so moments (O.C. and Stigs, Dr. T, or Intolerable Cruelty (which it was)) in light of their respective oeuvres.
But really, Wall-E isn’t best pic of ’08 by a mile. Best animation of the year, but not even in the nomination for best pic.
If this had been done as a motion capture the weakness of the story, dialog and pandering to progressive memes would have critics much more divided, if not down right derisive.
Actually I agree somewhat with Fentex, though not to the vehement extent.
We tend to give Pixar higher regard than other animation studios because the overall quality so much higher. It’s like Altman or the Coens getting a pass for the so so moments (O.C. and Stigs, Dr. T, or Intolerable Cruelty (which it was)) in light of their respective oeuvres.
But really, Wall-E isn’t best pic of ’08 by a mile. Best animation of the year, but not even in the nomination for best pic.
If this had been done as a motion capture the weakness of the story, dialog and pandering to progressive memes would have critics much more divided, if not down right derisive.
@Fentex: 100% agreed. This was the most over-rated film I’ve suffered through in a long time. So many deserving works of art are passed over … for this? Sigh. Now I’M the one getting cranky w/ the culture.
@Fentex: 100% agreed. This was the most over-rated film I’ve suffered through in a long time. So many deserving works of art are passed over … for this? Sigh. Now I’M the one getting cranky w/ the culture.
I won’t go over all the idiots, but here’s one sample:
“Wall-E shouldn’t win any awards because it’s an appallingly bad movie.”
And here’s my response(s):
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wall_e/news/1737449/critics_consensus_wall_e_is_the_best_reviewed_film_of_2008
http://walleforum.com/index.php?topic=978.0
Your “lack of attention to detail” and “inconsistensies” are in actuality an “I don’t want to think for myself and would rather the filmmakers tell me everything” rant. You are the lowest form of moviegoer, the kind that wants to be spoonfed.
I won’t go over all the idiots, but here’s one sample:
“Wall-E shouldn’t win any awards because it’s an appallingly bad movie.”
And here’s my response(s):
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wall_e/news/1737449/critics_consensus_wall_e_is_the_best_reviewed_film_of_2008
http://walleforum.com/index.php?topic=978.0
Your “lack of attention to detail” and “inconsistensies” are in actuality an “I don’t want to think for myself and would rather the filmmakers tell me everything” rant. You are the lowest form of moviegoer, the kind that wants to be spoonfed.