Mormons and Prop 8

The Mormon Church has poured almost $18 Million into the campaign in California to ban gay marriage. Recently they have been running the classic scare ads saying that without Prop 8, all the homosexual teachers in California schools would be teaching kids the “gay lifestyle”. The anti-Prop 8 forces are underfunded but fighting back on the net.

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  1. All of the pressing educational issues out there and this is the battle we’re being asked to fight? Sad, really truly sad.

  2. All of the pressing educational issues out there and this is the battle we’re being asked to fight? Sad, really truly sad.

  3. Sabeke says:

    Don’t forget the Catholics. The Knights of Columbus are also paying for a lot of ads.

    I had one Republican friend say that we doesn’t mind granting these rights to gays but that it shouldn’t be called marriage. The implication being that it made his marriage less special. The irony is that the state’s interest in marriage is legal, not spiritual. The state should do away with the term marriage and just call it a domestic partnership. Maybe that would quiet the religious zealots.

    Alsom it’s amazing how these people think that civil rights is zero-sum game–that granting another group rights diminishes yours. Scary.

  4. What I’d like to know is where the f*** they think gay teachers are going to find time to squeeze in the “gay lifestyle” portion of the curriculum? It’s not in the slick “programs” sold to the schools by the big educational conglomerates for math & reading…and they’ve already eliminated most art, music, PE, and recess. I mean, even if gay teachers were trying to do such a thing (ridiculous) when would they fit it in?

  5. Mason Dixon says:

    What exactly is the “gay lifestyle” again?

    I know a fair amount of gay people and so far, the only major difference I see is that they have better furniture than me.

  6. rhbee1 says:

    Life and style those are two words that are best understood separately. As for happy life and style, I like my live and let live own.

  7. dermot says:

    The gay lifestyle?

    You mean fashion sense, nice haircuts, physical fitness, opera, the arts.

    Quelle horreur!

  8. Dan says:

    The sad truth is that there are millions of Americans who will vote for anyone who tells them that abortion and homosexuality are wrong. No matter what the guy does or fails to do in office. So long as he speaks that magic shibboleth, he’s in like flint.

    That being said, both sides devote far too much energy to both of these issues. In the larger scheme of things, financial crisis, a government looking more Nazi every day, pollution, global warming, energy shortages, food shortages, disease, political instability and war, to name a few, we spend far too large of a percentage of our time talking about abortion and gay marriage.

  9. Rick Turner says:

    It’s about paranoia, that incredible emotion to be evoked in those whom you wish to control. Straight religious right folks seem to think that gayness is contagious. To them, being gay is kind of like being a leper was several hundred years ago or like having the bubonic plague. They see it as a disease of choice, and it’s not a far leap for them to see HIV as retribution. They are desperately afraid that gay men want to sodomize their young sons and that gay women want to turn their daughters into man hating lesbians.

  10. Sabeke says:

    @RT: See this paper for an explanation as to why homophobes hate gays…

  11. Sabeke says:

    I guess links aren’t allowed. Add your own http…

  12. It boggles my mind that no one is SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS:

    “It is NOT acceptable to have a fundamental right UP FOR A VOTE.”

    “It is NOT acceptable to have FUNDRAISERS to either PURCHASE a civil right OR to EXCLUDE American families FROM a civil right.”

    “Children are hurt by Marriage Inequality.”

    (the Christian Right thinks their children will be “traumatized” when faced with the REALITY of the existence of LGBT families; they have no idea what cruel traumas their family COULD experience if they lacked the rights & protections of civil marriage).

    Oh yeah, and also “No Taxation Will Happen UNTIL Representation”.

  13. Rick Turner says:

    The definition of manliness needs some serious revamping.

  14. Chuck says:

    I’m wondering… if we’re serious about saving marriage and we seem to be so free to vote on everything these days, why don’t we see if we can get enough signatures to get on the next ballot to BAN CHURCHES from marrying anyone.

    I read a article the other day, it said in the United States, we currently had a 58% divorce rate, out of that a full 93% were professing CHRISTIANS. Yes, 93% of all divorcing in America are professing christians. I know… truly sickening. So, it’s more then clear who has ruined marriage… so I’m thinking… since we’re able to vote on everything, isn’t it time to ban those that are truly ruing marriage?? Or was this more about homophobia?

  15. Chuck says:

    Traditional marriage you say…. hmmmmm who’s tradition?? Your tradition? America’s tradition??? The Muslim tradition? The Jewish tradition??? Who’s? Many Americans can remember when the tradition in this country was one WHITE man and one WHITE women? Is this the tradition you want??? I remember when the CHRISTIANS fled to the streets with their bibles when blacks wanted to marry whites. They claimed it was immoral. I know sick and shameful. Although, these were the very same types that went to the streets when they used their bibles to justify SLAVERY!! So, is it really any surprise that they are at it again?

    What about the mormons?? Their tradition is multiple wives??? So who’s tradition are we talking about??? Maybe we could go with the oldest tradition.. I could buy that… and it is well documented that samesex marriages were performed during the Roman times, well before the Christians got involved with the right. So exactly who’s tradition?? And who are you or anyone else to define my tradition??? Shame on you!! Shame shame shame.

  16. Rick Turner says:

    The problem is that you might have Roman Catholic priests wanting to marry alter boys… They certainly have a tradition of having sex with them…

  17. Dave says:

    uh, Chuck, I don’t think Christians getting divorced is such a bad thing, and probably doesn’t invalidate marriage in its traditional definition. While taking a vow of “until death do us part” and then breaking it to get divorced is (potentially) hypocritical, staying in a loveless, bad, or downright abusive marriage for the sake of one’s religious beliefs is positively frightening.

  18. VeryBadMan says:

    The Republican Party has been attempting to nationalize religion for decades.

  19. flyingtomato says:

    The Mormon Church has poured $18 million into this political campaign? They, and all other churches, should have their tax exempt status revoked.

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