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		<title>By: Sunny Murchison</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2008/05/15/republican-panic/comment-page-1/#comment-4232</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Murchison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always liked the Republican Party because it makes one self-sufficient in its politcal theory. It is far better to be independent than to be dependent on any social agency.

I will vote for John McCain because he is the most experienced candidate for the position of the presidency of the United State.  Take a master class in the presidency and you will learn why.

God bless.


Sunny Murchison and Lil&#039; Sunny Lee
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always liked the Republican Party because it makes one self-sufficient in its politcal theory. It is far better to be independent than to be dependent on any social agency.</p>
<p>I will vote for John McCain because he is the most experienced candidate for the position of the presidency of the United State.  Take a master class in the presidency and you will learn why.</p>
<p>God bless.</p>
<p>Sunny Murchison and Lil&#8217; Sunny Lee<br />
Pasadena, California</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Taplin</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2008/05/15/republican-panic/comment-page-1/#comment-4231</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Taplin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick-I&#039;m wrestling with this issue of Federalism, as you well know. My particular experieince is that California (and the rest of the country) would have benefited if we had been able to enforce our clean car law three years ago, instead of fighting the Bush Administration and the car companies in court. The same goes for our independance on stem cell research, on line privacy, gay rights, etc.

We have to be careful not to just think about George Wallace standing in the school house door over this issue. In general innovation tends to happen in smaller units at the edge and the Federal Government has proved to be incapable of innovation at the edge since DARPA first funded the Internet.

I hear your objections, but maybe there is a way to work through these show stoppers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick-I&#8217;m wrestling with this issue of Federalism, as you well know. My particular experieince is that California (and the rest of the country) would have benefited if we had been able to enforce our clean car law three years ago, instead of fighting the Bush Administration and the car companies in court. The same goes for our independance on stem cell research, on line privacy, gay rights, etc.</p>
<p>We have to be careful not to just think about George Wallace standing in the school house door over this issue. In general innovation tends to happen in smaller units at the edge and the Federal Government has proved to be incapable of innovation at the edge since DARPA first funded the Internet.</p>
<p>I hear your objections, but maybe there is a way to work through these show stoppers?</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Warstler</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2008/05/15/republican-panic/comment-page-1/#comment-4230</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Warstler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 01:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, Rick let me explain why I like states rights (listed in no particular order):

I&#039;m sick of talking about abortion, and I&#039;m pro-choice.  The pro-life side is winning slowly, and the states that are serious about women&#039;s health rights issues should gladly grab that political security.  Leave it up to the states, let women in South Carolina suffer accordingly, and let&#039;s see what&#039;s what.

I support gay marriage.   And if the Christians get given states rights for abortion (where they get to make it illegal in their state), I think they&#039;ll deal with gay marriage in the liberal states.

I support legalizing drugs and whoring.  And again, I think that the quickest way to STOP ARGUING is to let 50 different experiments get played out on all kind of social moral issues.

Yes, you are right that states rights was the rally cry of slavery.   I grant it.   But you have to admit, we fought a war to end that state right (well kinda).  Once that one is off the table, and I get the credit, cause we fought a war to stop bad shit when we had to, I think you have to admit, states rights works out better for the stuff you believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, Rick let me explain why I like states rights (listed in no particular order):</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick of talking about abortion, and I&#8217;m pro-choice.  The pro-life side is winning slowly, and the states that are serious about women&#8217;s health rights issues should gladly grab that political security.  Leave it up to the states, let women in South Carolina suffer accordingly, and let&#8217;s see what&#8217;s what.</p>
<p>I support gay marriage.   And if the Christians get given states rights for abortion (where they get to make it illegal in their state), I think they&#8217;ll deal with gay marriage in the liberal states.</p>
<p>I support legalizing drugs and whoring.  And again, I think that the quickest way to STOP ARGUING is to let 50 different experiments get played out on all kind of social moral issues.</p>
<p>Yes, you are right that states rights was the rally cry of slavery.   I grant it.   But you have to admit, we fought a war to end that state right (well kinda).  Once that one is off the table, and I get the credit, cause we fought a war to stop bad shit when we had to, I think you have to admit, states rights works out better for the stuff you believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Warstler</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2008/05/15/republican-panic/comment-page-1/#comment-4229</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Warstler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 01:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, I was actually thinking you should be interviewed on DM...  I wonder if you could stay on the NF message tho?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, I was actually thinking you should be interviewed on DM&#8230;  I wonder if you could stay on the NF message tho?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Turner</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2008/05/15/republican-panic/comment-page-1/#comment-4228</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>States&#039; rights...sovereignty again.   Why stop at states?  How about counties rights?  Municipalities?  Neighborhoods?  Blocks?  Individual houses rights?

There are states...Rhode Island, North Dacota, etc....which have smaller populations than many cities in the US.   Why should Rhode Island have states&#039; rights that trump city&#039;s rights?   It&#039;s bullshit...this states&#039; rights argument.   It doesn&#039;t mean anything in the big scheme of things, or perhaps states themselves should just go on the warpath and conquer one another...

What are &quot;states&#039; rights&quot;?   And why are they so important to you, Morgan?    I think they represent an arcane and totally artificial political construct.   This is an anachronism like the monarchy in England.   I&#039;m not totally against the idea, but if you scratch below the surface, states rights don&#039;t mean much.

There&#039;s also the wonderful Jim Crow history of states&#039; rights which allow states to trump human rights.   I&#039;m against it...   But then I&#039;m just learning about true libertarianism, Morgan-style.   Human rights don&#039;t seem to mean much except as other humans&#039; necks become rungs on the ladder to material success...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>States&#8217; rights&#8230;sovereignty again.   Why stop at states?  How about counties rights?  Municipalities?  Neighborhoods?  Blocks?  Individual houses rights?</p>
<p>There are states&#8230;Rhode Island, North Dacota, etc&#8230;.which have smaller populations than many cities in the US.   Why should Rhode Island have states&#8217; rights that trump city&#8217;s rights?   It&#8217;s bullshit&#8230;this states&#8217; rights argument.   It doesn&#8217;t mean anything in the big scheme of things, or perhaps states themselves should just go on the warpath and conquer one another&#8230;</p>
<p>What are &#8220;states&#8217; rights&#8221;?   And why are they so important to you, Morgan?    I think they represent an arcane and totally artificial political construct.   This is an anachronism like the monarchy in England.   I&#8217;m not totally against the idea, but if you scratch below the surface, states rights don&#8217;t mean much.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the wonderful Jim Crow history of states&#8217; rights which allow states to trump human rights.   I&#8217;m against it&#8230;   But then I&#8217;m just learning about true libertarianism, Morgan-style.   Human rights don&#8217;t seem to mean much except as other humans&#8217; necks become rungs on the ladder to material success&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Taplin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Taplin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgan- Dennis Miller? Say it ain&#039;t so. He&#039;s a friggin idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan- Dennis Miller? Say it ain&#8217;t so. He&#8217;s a friggin idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Warstler</title>
		<link>http://jontaplin.com/2008/05/15/republican-panic/comment-page-1/#comment-4226</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Warstler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, you feel sooooo much.  It causes too many assumptions that make me think you don&#039;t get where I&#039;m coming from.  Be clear, I&#039;m just as disappointed and disgusted with Rush&#039;s sloppy thinking as I am with you.  Republican party has had three groups, business men, hawks...  and UGH, the social conservatives.  That has ended and not too soon for me.   Certainly Rush&#039;s crowd is bummed about immigration, gay rights, moral crap - all things I&#039;m happy to see tossed over the side by a neo-conservative/libertarian party.

I&#039;m love to have a new Republican party get formed:  low tax, pro-small business, pro immigration, pro-choice, pro-military, pro-gay.  Will it happen?  Not a chance.   But, to me it is easier to urge the Republican party become pro-gay and pro-choice, than it is to convince the Democratic party be low tax / low regulation.

I&#039;m doomed to always be in the minority.   The fortunate thing is the glass is half full for me with either Obama or McCain.   And while McCain reads slightly better than Obama, I have a sneaking suspicion based on who he has around him, that he only gets more moderate.

But you unfailingly seem to fall back to thinking I&#039;m in bed with Rush Limbaugh which is silly.  I&#039;m a Dennis Miller guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, you feel sooooo much.  It causes too many assumptions that make me think you don&#8217;t get where I&#8217;m coming from.  Be clear, I&#8217;m just as disappointed and disgusted with Rush&#8217;s sloppy thinking as I am with you.  Republican party has had three groups, business men, hawks&#8230;  and UGH, the social conservatives.  That has ended and not too soon for me.   Certainly Rush&#8217;s crowd is bummed about immigration, gay rights, moral crap &#8211; all things I&#8217;m happy to see tossed over the side by a neo-conservative/libertarian party.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m love to have a new Republican party get formed:  low tax, pro-small business, pro immigration, pro-choice, pro-military, pro-gay.  Will it happen?  Not a chance.   But, to me it is easier to urge the Republican party become pro-gay and pro-choice, than it is to convince the Democratic party be low tax / low regulation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m doomed to always be in the minority.   The fortunate thing is the glass is half full for me with either Obama or McCain.   And while McCain reads slightly better than Obama, I have a sneaking suspicion based on who he has around him, that he only gets more moderate.</p>
<p>But you unfailingly seem to fall back to thinking I&#8217;m in bed with Rush Limbaugh which is silly.  I&#8217;m a Dennis Miller guy.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s try a totally different analysis of these results and see how it fits: For the GOP, the race is complete and there is little reason to show up and vote. For the Dems, every vote still matters and people are showing up in droves. Thus, in races where the primary is also a special election, the Dems are crushing the GOP.

I don&#039;t think we can yet say that this is the end of an era for the GOP. We&#039;ll have to wait until November to know that for sure, and work hard until then to ensure that it is.

For all the media reports that the Dems are killing the party with the fight to the finish, could it be that it is actually a good thing? I mean, every year we get reports about how the votes in late primaries don&#039;t count, and here we are with a situation where every last vote is important. It sure sounds like a good thing to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s try a totally different analysis of these results and see how it fits: For the GOP, the race is complete and there is little reason to show up and vote. For the Dems, every vote still matters and people are showing up in droves. Thus, in races where the primary is also a special election, the Dems are crushing the GOP.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we can yet say that this is the end of an era for the GOP. We&#8217;ll have to wait until November to know that for sure, and work hard until then to ensure that it is.</p>
<p>For all the media reports that the Dems are killing the party with the fight to the finish, could it be that it is actually a good thing? I mean, every year we get reports about how the votes in late primaries don&#8217;t count, and here we are with a situation where every last vote is important. It sure sounds like a good thing to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Taplin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Taplin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgan-Admit, the problems with your &quot;brand&quot; go much deeper than the hypocrisy of Abramoff, Vitter and Craig. Your vision of the world where we can &quot;take what we want and leave the rest&quot; is just fundamentally flawed and the people know it. In 2004, you and your friends like Karl Rove, were able to use the politics of fear, but thats not working anymore, even in the bible belt (viz. Mississippi and Louisiana special elections).

As I said before, you are going to have to retreat to the loyal opposition posture. Its a stress position, but I&#039;m sure that you and Rush Limbaugh will learn how to adapt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan-Admit, the problems with your &#8220;brand&#8221; go much deeper than the hypocrisy of Abramoff, Vitter and Craig. Your vision of the world where we can &#8220;take what we want and leave the rest&#8221; is just fundamentally flawed and the people know it. In 2004, you and your friends like Karl Rove, were able to use the politics of fear, but thats not working anymore, even in the bible belt (viz. Mississippi and Louisiana special elections).</p>
<p>As I said before, you are going to have to retreat to the loyal opposition posture. Its a stress position, but I&#8217;m sure that you and Rush Limbaugh will learn how to adapt.</p>
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		<title>By: McCain&#8217;s Magical Mystery Tour &#171; Jon Taplin&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>McCain&#8217;s Magical Mystery Tour &#171; Jon Taplin&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the pesky &#8220;fact-checking&#8221; that has bedeviled him in the past and avoided any mention of the current problems of the Republican Party. In this imaginary world we would be out of Iraq and Iraq would be a stable democracy. Americans [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the pesky &#8220;fact-checking&#8221; that has bedeviled him in the past and avoided any mention of the current problems of the Republican Party. In this imaginary world we would be out of Iraq and Iraq would be a stable democracy. Americans [...]</p>
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