Comments on: Mark Penn is no Dummy http://jontaplin.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:45:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Doug Pederson http://jontaplin.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/comment-page-1/#comment-176 Doug Pederson Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:14:28 +0000 http://jtaplin.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/#comment-176 Planted questions pissed me off so much that I went after the plants in this 1993 forum. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKwxLB6jO54 Planted questions pissed me off so much that I went after the plants in this 1993 forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKwxLB6jO54

]]> By: Where Hillary Went Wrong « Jon Taplin’s Blog http://jontaplin.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Where Hillary Went Wrong « Jon Taplin’s Blog Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:14:11 +0000 http://jtaplin.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/#comment-175 [...] he could use classic attack politics and for two days in New Hampshire with the tears and the “Iron my Shirt” trick it worked. But you can only cry once and Bill Clinton’s attacks in South Carolina misfired. As [...] [...] he could use classic attack politics and for two days in New Hampshire with the tears and the “Iron my Shirt” trick it worked. But you can only cry once and Bill Clinton’s attacks in South Carolina misfired. As [...]

]]> By: eyeingtenure http://jontaplin.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/comment-page-1/#comment-174 eyeingtenure Mon, 14 Jan 2008 04:02:29 +0000 http://jtaplin.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/#comment-174 The hecklers were regional shock jocks, as far as I heard. Beyond that, were they planted? Maybe, but doubtful. I think her campaign gave it tacit approval and Hillary Clinton advance warning, but that it was at the very least imagined independently. http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com The hecklers were regional shock jocks, as far as I heard.

Beyond that, were they planted? Maybe, but doubtful. I think her campaign gave it tacit approval and Hillary Clinton advance warning, but that it was at the very least imagined independently.

http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com

]]> By: “Dr. King Didn’t Just Give Speeches” « Jon Taplin’s Blog http://jontaplin.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/comment-page-1/#comment-173 “Dr. King Didn’t Just Give Speeches” « Jon Taplin’s Blog Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:57:36 +0000 http://jtaplin.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/#comment-173 [...] circulating email saying Obama is a Muslim. Bill Shaheen accusing Barack of being a drug dealer. The phony ”Iron my shirt” plant followed by tears the next day.Bill calling Obama “a kid” and saying [...] [...] circulating email saying Obama is a Muslim. Bill Shaheen accusing Barack of being a drug dealer. The phony ”Iron my shirt” plant followed by tears the next day.Bill calling Obama “a kid” and saying [...]

]]> By: Swift Loris http://jontaplin.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/comment-page-1/#comment-172 Swift Loris Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:39:37 +0000 http://jtaplin.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/#comment-172 I'm skeptical that it was planned because her initial comment--“Oh the remnants of sexism, alive and well tonight”--was so incredibly lame. Surely they could have thought up something snappier. I’m skeptical that it was planned because her initial comment–“Oh the remnants of sexism, alive and well tonight”–was so incredibly lame. Surely they could have thought up something snappier.

]]> By: Jon Taplin http://jontaplin.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Jon Taplin Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:14:35 +0000 http://jtaplin.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/#comment-171 Any reporter with a little enterprise could find the heckler and interview him. Unless the Clinton's have sent him on a Caribbean vacation. Any reporter with a little enterprise could find the heckler and interview him. Unless the Clinton’s have sent him on a Caribbean vacation.

]]> By: Michael Canfield http://jontaplin.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/comment-page-1/#comment-170 Michael Canfield Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:40:05 +0000 http://jtaplin.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/#comment-170 Some aspects of the incident raise questions and certainly deserve to be looked into. I thought it interesting how quickly Clinton thought to ask for the lights to be brought up so the sign could be seen, and how ready she was with a rebuff. The heckler allowed himself to lead away effortlessly. I wish there had been more of an effort by the media to see who this guy is. But on the question of smuggling the sign into the event, crease folds can clearly be seen, and the sign appears to be made out of something like butcher paper. He could have had it under his shirt or jacket. The bumper sticker on his bag might have the heckler's attempt to fit in at the event. Some aspects of the incident raise questions and certainly deserve to be looked into. I thought it interesting how quickly Clinton thought to ask for the lights to be brought up so the sign could be seen, and how ready she was with a rebuff. The heckler allowed himself to lead away effortlessly. I wish there had been more of an effort by the media to see who this guy is.
But on the question of smuggling the sign into the event, crease folds can clearly be seen, and the sign appears to be made out of something like butcher paper. He could have had it under his shirt or jacket. The bumper sticker on his bag might have the heckler’s attempt to fit in at the event.

]]> By: loopyloo350 http://jontaplin.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/comment-page-1/#comment-169 loopyloo350 Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:20:51 +0000 http://jtaplin.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/#comment-169 Reasonable is when it is true! Any critique that is flat out dishonest and manipulates the facts to fit their particular view is not reasonable. To twist the facts to fit your view and then to claim it is the truth, which he has, is slanderous. We need to get out of the slander politics. It's the same with what was done to John McCain in 2000, in South Carolina, except he didn't just infer something, he came flat out and said that the "only reason she became a Senator was because her husband cheated on her". That is the trouble with a lot of people, they get away with this kind of statements and nobody calls them on it. I watched him last nigh and he repeated the same thing. If he believes it, fine, say it is his belief, not as a statement of fact. Reasonable is when it is true! Any critique that is flat out dishonest and manipulates the facts to fit their particular view is not reasonable. To twist the facts to fit your view and then to claim it is the truth, which he has, is slanderous. We need to get out of the slander politics. It’s the same with what was done to John McCain in 2000, in South Carolina, except he didn’t just infer something, he came flat out and said that the “only reason she became a Senator was because her husband cheated on her”. That is the trouble with a lot of people, they get away with this kind of statements and nobody calls them on it. I watched him last nigh and he repeated the same thing. If he believes it, fine, say it is his belief, not as a statement of fact.

]]> By: Jon Taplin http://jontaplin.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/comment-page-1/#comment-168 Jon Taplin Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:04:38 +0000 http://jtaplin.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/#comment-168 Loopy- Chris Matthews plays an important role in an election like we are coming up to. It's called "the loyal opposition"--a reasonable critique of the Democratic Establishment Loopy- Chris Matthews plays an important role in an election like we are coming up to. It’s called “the loyal opposition”–a reasonable critique of the Democratic Establishment

]]> By: loopyloo350 http://jontaplin.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/comment-page-1/#comment-167 loopyloo350 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:32:25 +0000 http://jtaplin.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/mark-penn-is-no-dummy/#comment-167 It makes me really angry when people like Chris Matthews say things like he said the other day that "the only way she became Senator was because people felt sorry for her because her husband had an affair, she didn't win it on the merits". That is not exact but you can find the exact quote on AlterNet blogs. It is really offensive. he wouldn't say that the only reason a man was elected was because his wife went out on him. It is totally sexist and someone should call him on it. It is no different than the way Don Imus talked. And it is not even true. It makes me really angry when people like Chris Matthews say things like he said the other day that “the only way she became Senator was because people felt sorry for her because her husband had an affair, she didn’t win it on the merits”. That is not exact but you can find the exact quote on AlterNet blogs. It is really offensive. he wouldn’t say that the only reason a man was elected was because his wife went out on him. It is totally sexist and someone should call him on it. It is no different than the way Don Imus talked. And it is not even true.

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